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Aug 15, 2015 12:25 PM

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Amarrez said:
I really do feel sorry for people who are doing their best to take this story seriously when you're presented with visuals such as:



I recommend anyone who is actually interested in the story or themes of the series to just read the manga. The source material isn't a masterpiece but it's many times better than this.


Just looked it up. Holy crap that is so much better! Still plan on watching the anime, but maybe I'll read the manga after. Looks like there are a lot of chapters though.
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Nov 1, 2015 6:28 AM

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It feels like I'm not watching an anime.
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Mar 12, 2016 4:54 PM

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What a shitty anime, though i will continue to watch it.
Bad Episode.
Apr 17, 2016 10:56 PM

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Well I just started this anime today and id say this anime is funny. Art doesnt bother me much.
The OP is cancer to my ears so I skipped it and ED is creepy as fuck .

Theres a scene here where the girl looks like a guy .lol
Apr 30, 2016 8:59 AM

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The main character sure is a coward and quite stupid. This episode wasn't as good as the first one, but it was okay. By the way, I have the feeling that Nakamura will expose the dark and wicked side of her personality shortly.
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Jul 17, 2016 9:48 AM

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Who would cry because their gym clothes got stolen ...
Wonder what Nakamura wants to steal from Kasuga for her contract.
Mar 21, 2018 2:19 PM

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This episode was so much more interesting, finally some seriously repulsive stuff starts happening. I already wanna kill Nakamura off lol, not that protagonist is so much better...

I'm sure there's something about our sweet, perfect Saeki as well, it's that kind of series after all.
May 16, 2018 12:53 PM
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Fintan said:
yea I actually had a hard time spotting some of the funny looking stills, it seems like these people really went out of their way to get the most awkward shot. Like you said in real life you can get an awkward shot of good looking people. I think the anime realistically portrays people, but not in terms of detail but body proportions and shape. Also I think they are clearly making a point that not everyone is attractive. Moe' school anime literally have every single female in the anime look good. Which is always really funny when they're trying to portray an unpopular or "ugly" girl and she looks exactly the same as the others.

The mangaka had even commented how he didn't just want a traditional anime adaptation, and would have wanted something like a live action series. So this is what they decided on. The people who animated this show are very skilled and have a lot of gorgeous anime they have worked on. Everything is intentional, if you don't like it that's cool it's just not appealing to YOU. Saying it is just outright bad is ridiculous. Detail does not equal good art, so saying the faces don't have detail does not mean it's bad.


yep, Fintan said it best.

i'm loving this shit, totally hyped. i feel like binge watching the rest but i don't want it to end so soon (yeah that's how excited i am)

i guess when it came out it was a shock for fans of the manga, apparently. i haven't had any contact with it yet, so coming from a fresh viewer years away from it's release, i gotta say it's superb. i don't find it funny at all, it's really engaging to me actually.
Feb 27, 2019 6:38 AM
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Not sure why the rating is so bad. It's pretty good so far, shows how easily humans jump onto the wrong road.
Sep 20, 2019 10:49 AM

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unexpected the girl push the protagonist on Saeko's breasts
Nov 19, 2020 12:49 AM
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Second episode was even more bizarre than the first, but still intriguing nonetheless. I'm confused, though - if Nakamura wasn't in the classroom with Kasuga, how did she see him steal the gym clothes? Was she watching at the door? Or did she just assume he did and run with that assumption to scare him into doing whatever it is she wants him to do? I'm also wondering what her motivation for blackmailing him is. Like, does she actually want something from him, or is she just being needlessly sadistic?

Also, side note: the OP is so upbeat it's strange and doesn't seem to fit the tone of the show in general.
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Nov 23, 2020 6:28 PM

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Farabeuf said:
Had to check this out to see what the fuss was about. And I found a good effective story about teenage alienation and awkwardness. The music and the rotoscoping add a certain sense of dread, that would be missing if you had your traditional "gorgeous" looking character designs and fluid animation. The sense of discomfort from watching adds to the overall experience IMHO. I don't think it's a masterpiece by any means, but it's a good series and the level of hate it's getting is waaay out of proportion.
Farabeuf said:
Had to check this out to see what the fuss was about. And I found a good effective story about teenage alienation and awkwardness. The music and the rotoscoping add a certain sense of dread, that would be missing if you had your traditional "gorgeous" looking character designs and fluid animation. The sense of discomfort from watching adds to the overall experience IMHO. I don't think it's a masterpiece by any means, but it's a good series and the level of hate it's getting is waaay out of proportion.


I feel the same way. The bad animation actually contributes to the tone of this series. I would prefer more detail added in to the art to supplement the rawness of the rotoscoping, and a bit more editing to fix up the jarringly ugly moments, but I wouldn't change anything about the general style that this show is going for.

I'm really disappointed that nobody is discussing the plot. The whole episode I was wondering what I would do if I were in this situation, and I felt like I came up with a lot better ideas than the protagonist. To me it feels like the protagonist is really stupid, and yet he spends his free time reading poetry and high literature. I'm really not sure how I feel about this, it seems like the story is going down the darkest path for the sake of darkness rather than choosing a path that makes sense. I'm worried about this series trying too hard to deconstruct the "panty thief" meme instead of tell a realistic story. I guess there's nothing else for me to do but watch the next episodes and pray that this story ends up better than my fears suggest.
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May 19, 2021 11:31 AM

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Man this whole episode.............

May 19, 2021 11:36 AM

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Anyway, I have to say that I don't like being spoiled like that in the opening sequence, and I will probably have to skip it if this continues onward...

The MC act weird ever since he entered the class which probably gave Nakamura an idea of what's going on...

I guess basically Nakamura want to get laid with the MC
Jan 30, 2022 11:40 AM
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Lol, mans basically sold his soul to the devil. Be smart, you don't HAVE to reveal yourself to return it, eventually everyone would forget it well except for the 3 of you, the person threatening you is already an outcast just hard deny it and start crying lol
Aug 29, 2022 6:25 PM
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Ah, this situation happened to me where the decision I was contemplating was to smell or not to smell a female's dirty underwear. Fortunately, I decided against it.
Oct 24, 2022 12:38 PM

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Damn, Nakamura seems to be a psycho. I hope she won't be proven to be it later on, and that we will learn some more details about why she acts that way.
Dec 20, 2022 10:33 PM
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Ummmm??????????

Apr 7, 2023 6:46 PM
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So, he couldn't say No.
Not impressed.
Oct 11, 2023 6:04 AM
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Pretty upsetting stuff. If there's one thing I admire about this series, it's how well it blurs the line between being authentic and melodramatic through virtually every aspect of it's production. The EbSynth-esque animation style isn't something I'm sold on just yet, though I must admit that it does a pretty great job of enhancing just how uncanny the writing and characters are.

The whole situation with Saeki is kinda bizarre. I don't know why Kasuga didn't think to take the bag with him, or how he was magically able to land squarely between Saeki's chest from the lightest push known to man. Guess Kasuga's entire body is filled with air and not just his head.
Jul 12, 2024 10:59 PM
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Wow, I mean I know something worse was going to happen, but man...this anime does make you scream at the Main Character to tell the truth. This anime really weighs on you...But I know that there wouldn't be a story if it resolved so quickly...
Feb 4, 2025 3:23 PM

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Kasuga feels shame after stealing Saeki's clothes, for a lot of viewers, these emotions might feel greatly exaggerated, but the shame after such a taboo act can be very strong, especially for a person like our main character who lives in Japan of all countries. The contrast between the realistic backgrounds and the minimalistic designs shows a huge alienation between our main character and the environment that surrounds him, with great mountains to effectively build a metaphorical prison; this feeling that is absolutely boosted by the difference in behaviour between him and his male peers, who are indiscriminately sexual and shameless. This is not only a concoction of Kasuga's meek personality, the loneliness, Japan's culture and the taboo act he has done, but also puberty and the innate difficulties this stage of life holds for everyone. Since Kasuga cannot express his feelings in an effective way, he uses Baudelaire's work as a scapegoat to try and make up for this shame.

The contract with Nakamura, losing a "wanted" thing, I believe is about essentially losing the sanctity and purity that Kasuga has on his crush with Saeko, our main character is always trying to clarify that the love he has for her crush is not "dirty" or "grossly sexual" like the feelings of the other guys, but Nakamura makes it so a "Flower of Evil" grows between them, breaking this illusion of purity; stealing the clothes was the seed, but this "contract" was another step towards this objective of growing this Flower of Evil.

5/5
keirashiiFeb 4, 2025 5:36 PM
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surreal reading these replies. this anime is a 10/10. maybe the best of the 21st century. To see people miss the point that bad is unreal. Even on a basic directing level it excels. The way it pauses and stretches just enough. The constant dread in the music. It barely even needs words. When she handed him the note all he got was a single face but it said a million things at once. The dynamic shifted massively without a word. She has power and isnt afraid to use it. The way it portrays the constant grind of anxiety, the lurking feelings, its present in every scene. He is never free of the sin.
Aug 26, 10:41 PM
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i cant with this artstyle bro. screw it, im reading the manga now
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