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Apr 16, 2021 11:11 AM
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Im starting to like Shuri more in this anime now. Maybe I can like her more if they develop her character further.

Plus we got more important background storytelling that connects this anime's themes together. Hope to also see more of Yui this season.
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Apr 16, 2021 11:35 AM
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Wow, the story is going great

I want to see how's Yuki gonna......

A pretty good episode

If it looks like I stand no chance I’ll run away and think up a new plan, but otherwise, I should see how strong it is with my own eyes, right?

Apr 16, 2021 12:17 PM
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Shuri is getting more attached to the Tsugaru-shamisen, which like Setsu, has a deprecating background. It's like the meeting of the two birds of a feather instantly connects like threads of the Shamisen.

NGL, Kaito's VA is Bakugo, so it's fitting that he is playing the "villain" character, and I kinda like the comedic banter between him, Shuri and Yui, plus Setsu on the side and the advisor Keiko, everyone from the Tsugaru Shamisen Apprecation Club.

The musical symbolisms are on point this episode, I feel like I'm always learning something new despite being a growing musician. The Shamisen piece that Seiryuu is playing on the Futozao, the tenuous amounts of intensity and flair...it was frighteningly breathtaking.

Even for a test play (that only Yui knows), the standard that Setsu's Gramps holds of playing Jongara Bushi, you could tell that it was WAY OFF and ventured elsewhere. Here's hoping that Setsu will find back his rhythm and play the Shamisen like he was supposed to with motivation.

I can't understate how this show is getting burried by people, it's too good to miss out on such fine musicality like this.
Apr 16, 2021 12:29 PM
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Yui is the perfect friend for Shuri though. But man Poor Shuri being embarrassed in the worst possible way. Kaito is prone to misreading situations it seems. Koyabu sensei really went all out with that outfit of hers. Kamiki's piece though really was impressive. While Setsu's attempt didn't get the desired effect for him it did at least allow him to realize what direction his next steps should be. Overall an interesting ep that while doing well in world building by introducing the characters of Yui, Kaito and Kamiki also did well to build upon the foundations of Setsu's recovery via his helping of the club. Curious where this will go though. As a character im starting to like Shuri more than Setsu due to the contrasts that she brings to the series.
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Apr 16, 2021 12:31 PM
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Love the new boy, Kaito Yaguchi, is he trying to flirt two girls at once? He's so hetero!

Setsu Sawamura change from aiming at perfectionism to practical and start to improving it from there, nice switch!
Apr 16, 2021 12:34 PM
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Oof. Hope Shuri is alright after that moment in class, cause that could be killer for anyone in that situation. As for the episode itself, there is just something so beautiful about sound, and how one's effected by playing and sound in general.
Apr 16, 2021 12:42 PM
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Srsly loving the OPENING! Its a banger. And so far a good episode


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Apr 16, 2021 12:44 PM
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I like how the story is starting to come together. Another excellent episode. I am so excited for Setsu deciding he will play the song for Shuri's grandma. And with Seiryuu thinking Setsu isn't anything special that's a nice set up for a possible "redemption" on Setsu's part in the future. Really enjoying this so far.
Apr 16, 2021 12:48 PM
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Something about this show really does scream inconsistent and all over the place quality wise for me since the previous episode was great and this was more meh for me. But that also relates to Setsu's performances and heart when playing with the shamisen as well at the same time. One time, he blew everyone away including the viewers of the show, and this time his performance felt hollow and sort of.... just existed rather than display any sort of passion or explosion due to him not comprehending his own notes and movements behind what he's playing. Weird show for me personally so far, don't exactly know how to pin down my feelings for it so far.
Apr 16, 2021 12:55 PM
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After this episode my expectations are very high. I really hope it will continue to build up well, cos so far so good.
Apr 16, 2021 1:22 PM
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Very standard episode...First two episodes were amazing...This one was just fine...Its like something i have seen 10 times before...not bad anyways
Apr 16, 2021 2:45 PM

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Looks like there's a difference between just playing the Shamisen and the sound you create. The person playing the Shamisen must bring out the proper sound to the piece or else it's boring and dull. Setsu did not dig deep enough to find the sound he needs to play a piece. He'll have to develop or regain that ability.
Apr 16, 2021 2:47 PM

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oh shet Shuri having illegally downloaded music on her phone smh kids these days, someone needs to teach her the L A W

but this is shaping up to be some food wars style shit lol where moving to the next stage is wanting to do it for the person you love or smth. At least Setsu has his goal now


Also why does Kamiki look like Atsumu Miya :P



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NGL, Kaito's VA is Bakugo, so it's fitting that he is playing the "villain" character, and I kinda like the comedic banter between him, Shuri and Yui, plus Setsu on the side and the advisor Keiko, everyone from the Tsugaru Shamisen Apprecation Club.

villain? If anything he's just playing the childhood friend character who's inevitably gonna get rejected lmao
Apr 16, 2021 3:10 PM
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I had a feeling that Setsu would choke the performance in front of that pro they met.

I hope that Setsu can find his own style and overcome the burden of trying to live up to his grandfathers reputation.
Apr 16, 2021 3:19 PM

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Well for sure this is one of the hidden gem of this season... then again so many good shows for Spring lol
Apr 16, 2021 3:30 PM

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Those fangirls came for the face, but stayed for the music.
Ahora, triste en la pendiente, solitario y ya vencido yo me quiero confesar

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Apr 16, 2021 3:46 PM
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this is one of the gems this season. I'm really enjoying it.
Apr 16, 2021 4:25 PM

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That teacher certainly got herself dolled up and pretty much took the students down to the local improv club as an excuse to turn up. Serious vibes and undertones all around however when it comes to playing the Shamisen. Sound and music can mean so much to so many and be interpreted in so many ways, and this show is nailing it on the head so far.
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Apr 16, 2021 4:34 PM

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the characters are standard, i dont think ill be Really liking any of them but every shamisen performance this anime gives are truly amazing. just as shuri who wasn't a fan or even knew Anything about the instrument im always hooked up whenever its played
Apr 16, 2021 4:46 PM

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Idk chief, the writing on this show has been pretty mid. This show just feels like things keep falling perfectly into place.
Apr 16, 2021 5:12 PM

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Great episode again, the music is just incredible. Every shamisen performance so far has been mesmerizing. It gives the drama and especially Setsu's internal conflict about how and why he wants to play so much more impact.

Shuri seems nice, I like her and Yui is great too.

I'm really looking forward to hearing Setsu play for Shuri's grandma and how it's gonna turn out.
Apr 16, 2021 5:21 PM

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It's getting better every episode.
Apr 16, 2021 6:18 PM

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More characters introduced in this episode, gotta remember those faces.
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Apr 16, 2021 6:24 PM
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I didn't expect anyone to know about the song I was very surprised.
Apr 16, 2021 8:29 PM

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just WOW! Mashiro no Oto keeps getting better and better!
5/5!


Apr 16, 2021 10:19 PM
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Not strong episode but still very nice. I became love Shuri. She is cute in every way.
Setsu's feeling depiction was great. The only flaw is pacing. A bit fast.
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Apr 16, 2021 10:25 PM
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Some musicians can be good technicians, and give an exemplary performance of the "standard" interpretation, but while technically fine...it lacks anything to make it stand out otherwise. Mind, there are those interested in music for whom that's actually the best performance from their point of view, in that they feel that there is only "one true way" a piece should be played; to deviate from that is blasphemy.

I can respect their skill, but I must admit I'm in the "interpretation" school of performance philosophy. One reason i prefer live concerts and concert recordings over studio recordings; it isn't happening in a vacuum.

At the far end from that are those who can't perform worth beans if something isn't reaching into their soul and dragging the music out of them. Every performance is improvisational; it may technically be the same piece each time, but there will always be variations due to the interaction between musician and audience; the most extreme cases find that it isn't possible to produce a studio album, but only recordings of live performances. They have to have a connection to their audience, it has to be a duet between performer and listener, each reacting to the other; if they haven't a clue when they begin just who their audience really is, what defines it at that time, they'll end up flailing away.

At least, that seems to be what's going on in this episode with Setsu. He's handed an instrument, told to play...and there's nothing there. Now, if the other chap had picked up another instrument and said, "Let's jam," things might have gone differently. He'd at least have had another sound to play off of.

It should be noted that some of the above may just be my philosophizing and not reflect reality; I can play a mean kazoo, and am a decent singer, but I've never had the patience/drive required to learn anything more than that. I did have a year's music theory in college...some 40 years ago or so.

I'm continuing to enjoy this greatly.

Edit to add: Just glanced back to the previous episode discussions, the MAL admins appear to have dealt with the bot votes; Episode 1 now shoes 8 (count them, eight) 1 votes.
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Apr 16, 2021 10:47 PM

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But that also relates to Setsu's performances and heart when playing with the shamisen as well at the same time. One time, he blew everyone away including the viewers of the show, and this time his performance felt hollow and sort of.... just existed rather than display any sort of passion or explosion due to him not comprehending his own notes and movements behind what he's playing.


The show takes a lot of steps and metaphores to explain that, but it´s quite simple:

He did a good performance when:
-He wasn´t being forced to.
-His feelings where being showed through Jongara. He was remembering his grandpa and how the song is a metaphor about life and aging.
-He had an emotional attachment to the characters he was interacting with.
-He didn´t had any pressure, besides performing to the public.

This time he did it bad because he was intimidated by Seiryu, he was nervous, he didn´t know what to expect and why he was doing it, and he´s still looking for his own sound or inspiration, instead of going through the steps of his grandpa. He did Jongara amazingly back then because he channeled his own feelings into it, this time he just went textbook. That´s why the performance was "boring".
Apr 16, 2021 11:47 PM

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this show gives me existential dread and makes me panic about my music career. 10/10 emotion wise for me. I cannot remember reciprocating a character's anger and frustrations more than I did in this episode
Apr 17, 2021 12:19 AM

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Shuri was pretty adorable this episode. Felt pretty bad for her when everyone was laughing at her in the class. Loved the atmosphere of the episode. Looks like Setsu is going to have a rival soon. For some reason, he couldn't play the piece he wanted to play on the Shamisen. Loving the story progression as well. Good episode.
Apr 17, 2021 2:18 AM

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Great episode! I think the first two episodes were stronger but this was still pretty great. Truly one of my favorites this season, I hope it keeps it up.

Felt bad for Shuri when they were laughing at her, must protecc. Yui is a good friend and character as well. Sensei and all the other female audience for Kamiki's performance were down bad lmao. I am glad Setsu found a reason to play for Shuri's grandma, this is a good step into fixing his inner problems. Really looking forward to the next episode.
Apr 17, 2021 2:21 AM

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god the girl with glasses is so annoying
but n e wayss it was a good episode I like the slow character building and development also we got to listen to a fair amount of shamisen which I'm really happy about, such a beautiful sound
Apr 17, 2021 2:28 AM

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overall our pro guy is a overconfident af type of character who I think will get diss by mc in near future

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Apr 17, 2021 7:40 AM

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All I can see and hear are the beautiful and breathtaking music! It is really moving. Can't wait for next week!


Apr 17, 2021 7:50 AM
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They expect too much from the MC, like damn. Let the kid breathe, he doesn’t own them a single thing. “How dare you play like that in front of a professional?” That girl has no right to speak to him like that.
Apr 17, 2021 8:04 AM
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I love this anime!! I always wanted to discover the truth and power of the shamisen. It's starting to get interesting and historical.
I love all the characters!!
Apr 17, 2021 8:22 AM

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So many new characters and really good episode. Yui kidda like Hange looks and vibe
Apr 17, 2021 8:27 AM
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Oh, this was interesting, finally, we are seeing Setsu's true motives and struggles, and I can see him getting an amazing development. The new characters are very interesting as well, and I was afraid that the school drama would kill the show, but it seems it will not. Loved Yui's personality, as well Shuri's motivation to learn the shamisen (and what a nice twist it was for the song she wanted to learn be the same as Setsu's).

One thing that annoyed me tho was the possibility of this turning into a harem, since every girl in this show seems to fall for Setsu (I don't blame them tho), I would rather see Kaito and Shuri having a romantic development.

Loved the conflict they've inserted this week, of Setsu not being able to figure what he wanted to play for Seryuu. It's far more engaging than just not being good enough, and I'm beginning to understand what this show is really about.

About the song played in this ep, it wasn't as energetic as the ones from previous eps, but no less amazing! I love how they mix the sound with visuals and monologues so that even someone who doesn't understand a thing about shamisen (like me) can understand what the song is conveying.
Apr 17, 2021 11:01 AM

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Looks like Setsu's grandpa's last words are still haunting him, but I'm glad that he decided he's going to try to play Shungyou for Maeda's gran and face his fear of failing head-on. I really want him to prove Kamiki wrong too... not sure I like that guy
Apr 17, 2021 1:09 PM

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Love the new boy, Kaito Yaguchi, is he trying to flirt two girls at once? He's so hetero!
ajaja so true. Kaito admitted he doesnt hide his feelings for Shuri, but later said something vague could "misunderstand" Yuri. and both girls feel admiration for Setsu, who was kissed by Yuna who has a boyfriend who maybe is still waiting for her, and there's ALSO the apparent childhood friend in his hometown who considers him a musical rival (hers or perhaps a rival of her brother?) this has more incipient ship than a soap opera. am hyped about anyway. hope there'll be some lgtb depiction tho (/w'\)

It was very interesting Mai and handsome Kousuke Ogata talk about the feelings of envy on a better performer and the expectations about Sawamura's grandson who "doesnt compete". i'll keep to pay attention to Setsu development, has a lot of potential and love his seiyuu ^w^
Apr 18, 2021 11:51 AM

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We got another good performance, from a psuedo-rival this time. It wasn’t as great as the performances in previous episodes, but it was still good. I like that the MC is going to play for the love interest’s grandma, it should help give him inspiration after his poor performance.
Apr 18, 2021 7:25 PM
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I love the focus on all the other characters since it makes the setting feels much larger and more alive if that makes sense




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Apr 19, 2021 6:58 AM
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Ah, that Yui was the one who listened back at first episode. More dude cast, to strengthened the cast? Ah so thats the route. Damn, what a fate. Setsu met that great shamisen player whose abled to defeat his brother. Too bad, Setsu still unable to played a better sound that fit the needs of that situations. However, its understandable if it would saved to the later parts, for a shocking value. I can't wait to see the reaction of him again. Meanwhile, based on his latest interaction with that little girl, Sakura, Setsu finally made himself up to played a little pieces he remembered for that Shuri grandma. Good luck next time, Setsu!
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Apr 20, 2021 3:28 AM

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Decent episode. Once again, the music particularly stands out.
Apr 23, 2021 11:32 PM
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So it's a school club anime? I feel cheated. At this rate it won't be getting a very high score from me.
Somebody please smother Shuri - her voice is so grating. I want to punch her through the screen every times she opens her mouth.
Apr 27, 2021 10:20 AM

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The Shamisen plays in this episode wasn't that impressive like the previous episodes.

Setsu not being able to play like usual, it could be because the Shamisen didn't belong to him. It's a psychological thing, you just don't feel it when you're using something that belongs to someone else.

Setsu's now giving off strong Arata vibes.

The new characters introduced in this episode, all of them are so likeable.
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wow, I love music and seeing/hearing how people feel emotion through sound, instead of just listening to the "nice noise" - was touching.
Jun 17, 2021 12:22 PM
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Shuri is sure gonna be a pretty good character, her background with her grandmother's song is interesting
Aug 11, 2021 11:18 AM

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Seeing Setsu struggle with playing the shamisen kinda reminds me of Arima struggling with the piano in Your lie in April..

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Setsu is still trying to find his sound. He was blown away by the performance of Kamiki Seiryuu, stage name of the high school alumni Kousuke Ogata, winner of the recent competition where Wakana got third place. He was curious of Setsu since he was told by his master's daughter of his talent when young. Setsu now needs to find his own sound to play for Shuri's grandmother.
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