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Sep 22, 2008 11:15 PM
#1
| Major The 4400 vibes coming from this season. I sure hope the preview for the next episode was just about a possible future. Jumping straight to giving the world powers is just way too fast. This season is called "Villains," not "Evolution" or something like that. They shouldn't be creating so many things to focus on. We already have like four sides to this conflict: the last generation, the current generation, Section 5 escapees, and Sylar (maybe?). Then there's that whole thing going on in Europe with Hiro and Ando. |
AsrialysSep 23, 2008 12:59 AM
Sep 23, 2008 5:07 AM
#2
I fanboyed a lot at first at the idea that Sylar was immortal then I remembered something. ...What happened to .." Save the cheerleader , save the world " ? Wasn't the whole point of that because Sylar had KILLED claire in one of the AU , and went of to destroy NY . Now they tell us she can't die ? what the .... ? Plot hole ? surely you jest . The Peter from the future is funny. no wait , what's funnier is that everyone ( Peter ) seems to have forgotten about Caitlin who is trapped in another AU hahaha , poor girl. oh and Mulhinder , I never really liked you...but gawd , what you did was really stupid..g'job. So..erm..how did Nathan ressurect anyway ? and just how many Alternate universe are there anyway ? and Lol Ando with powers that look straightoutta dragon ball. |
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Sep 23, 2008 8:21 AM
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kurotsuki said: I fanboyed a lot at first at the idea that Sylar was immortal then I remembered something. ...What happened to .." Save the cheerleader , save the world " ? Wasn't the whole point of that because Sylar had KILLED claire in one of the AU , and went of to destroy NY . Now they tell us she can't die ? what the .... ? Plot hole ? surely you jest . The Peter from the future is funny. no wait , what's funnier is that everyone ( Peter ) seems to have forgotten about Caitlin who is trapped in another AU hahaha , poor girl. oh and Mulhinder , I never really liked you...but gawd , what you did was really stupid..g'job. So..erm..how did Nathan ressurect anyway ? and just how many Alternate universe are there anyway ? and Lol Ando with powers that look straightoutta dragon ball. Powers evolve. Mat, at first knew only how to read thoughts, then he was able to actually send thoughts, which ended up in total psychic manipulation powers of sending/receiving sounds, smells and views. It seems that as they are using their powers, they get stronger. It seems to be quite possible that IF Claire was "opened" before she would have died. (the first future). Now let's notice one thing - we did NOT see her dead in second and third future. We just saw Sylar opening her. The main point was, at the first future, that Sylar becomes unstoppable on his quest for power, thanks to combination of various events. Now its different. As we saw this episode - few words can change a lot of things in the world. Oh and Peter CAN'T save Caitlin anymore. That future is "closed" for him. He and others with timeshifting powers can only get to the future which is most possible for their universe at the moment. stoping the virus, made our universe drift away from that path, leaving Caitlin in alternate-universe where Peter was unsuccessful to stop the virus. What Mohinder did fits very well with his character and longing for approval of his father. Doing something what his father could not. Thats just something he CAN'T refuse. Theoretically there is an infinite number of alternate universes. Think of probability theory with infinite number of variables. Nathan's resurrection, well...O am betting it plays out into the Linderman plot and will exist as plot for the Volume 4 - Fugitives. |
Sep 23, 2008 2:34 PM
#4
| But we did see Sylar (I think it was him) cut Claire's head off in Angela's dream. Kinda scares me to think that Claire can actually survive that. I doubt she'd be able to grow back a head. A talking head? Can she survive without a heart? Claire truly has a most terrifying power in regards to herself, especially now that she can't feel anything. |
Sep 23, 2008 3:00 PM
#5
| Alright, firstly, Man, didn't take long to say who shot Nathan. Also, the Nikki-Look-Alike. My friends are betting it IS Nikki, and each Personality has different powers. Personally, I don't think it's Nikki, since her personalities worked differently before, but I'll just toss the idea in. Nice Cyrokenisis Nikki-Look-Alike (What the heck was her name? Tracy?) Lesse, F!Peter, just send P!Peter to his own body/appearance and go back please. Stop fricking with the timeline, it's already messed up anyways, you don't need to screw around even more. Also, anyone else wondering where that Jesse guy (That was his name, right? My brain's gone on overload right now) went to? Is he in Peter's Body, or just somewhere else? If he's in Peter's body, ooooh boy, we're in trouble. Nice job including The German and The Speeder-Girl, Nice to see more Graphic Novel characters go to the show. Since I'm starting to wander instead of type, I'm gonna finish up here, and I'll reply again later. I'm gonna rewatch cause I was half-asleep at parts. Quick Edit: Asrialys said: But we did see Sylar (I think it was him) cut Claire's head off in Angela's dream. Kinda scares me to think that Claire can actually survive that. I doubt she'd be able to grow back a head. A talking head? Can she survive without a heart? Claire truly has a most terrifying power in regards to herself, especially now that she can't feel anything. Since abilities have to do with stress levels/whatever else Mohinder was saying, her head would grow another Claire body I think, since her body doesn't have the brain connected to grow a new head. :/ And I feel bad for Claire, she can't feel anything now, with no nerve endings and all that jazz. |
NyaChanSep 23, 2008 3:03 PM
Sep 23, 2008 3:08 PM
#6
Asrialys said: But we did see Sylar (I think it was him) cut Claire's head off in Angela's dream. Kinda scares me to think that Claire can actually survive that. I doubt she'd be able to grow back a head. A talking head? Can she survive without a heart? Claire truly has a most terrifying power in regards to herself, especially now that she can't feel anything. So far what we have seen with Adam, beheading might not work that much as he only feared getting his brains blown own. However it might not even be the case with Claire. What if Sylar was right and Claire TRULY can't die now(we all know that powers intensify and get stronger)...from anything. He is the one who figures how things work, if he says that nothing would be able to kill Claire, maybe now its truth? |
Sep 23, 2008 5:13 PM
#7
| I guess that means Peter can't die either ? in witch case , why was he shown dead anyway ? he wasn't even beheaded . ..and how does a time traveler gets stabbed by his own weapon ? and what kind of fear Claire would have that would make that guy behead her ? ....Unless he makes fear become reality , in which case maybe Claire's fear is to die ? and if he makes fear reality , then....i guess he killed her for real ? and to reply to fai earlier : yeah powers evolving , I guess I didn't think of that. Perhaps Claire triggers he defense system to grown strongers after so many death attempts. |
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Sep 23, 2008 6:15 PM
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NyaChan said: Also, the Nikki-Look-Alike. My friends are betting it IS Nikki, and each Personality has different powers. Personally, I don't think it's Nikki, since her personalities worked differently before, but I'll just toss the idea in. Nice Cyrokenisis Nikki-Look-Alike (What the heck was her name? Tracy?) I believe you are right, but I'll try to clear up why I think you are. Mohinder told us that by using that serum everyone will be able to have powers. Maya said she didnt want people to have the same powers as she did since its her blood, and Mohinder told us that, since everyone has a different genetic makeup, or blood makeup, or something like that, then everyone will manifest different powers. Therefore, since all of Nikki's personalities inhabit the same body, they would all have the same power. What if it is Nikki and her power evolved like in Parkman or Claire? Well, in Parkman's case he went from reading minds to controlling minds, and Claire went from healing to apparently feeling no pain. The natural progression of evolution directly correllates with its previous state. So, basically their new powers have something to do with their old powers. I don't see a natural progression from having super strength (Nikki) to having the ability to freeze (Tracy). So, what does this all mean? Either Nikki's real power is the ability to change her genetic makeup, thus creating herself different powers, which I don't think is the case, or Tracy is a completely different person. Who is Tracy? Simple. TRACY IS NIKKI'S TWIN SISTER!!! Twins even though looking the same have different genetic makeups. Thats why she was surprised at seeing those pictures of Nikki with Nathan in that hotel room, and thats why she denied it was her. I don't even think she knows she has (or possibly had) a twin sister. Man, that was a long post, but thats my take on it. |
Sep 24, 2008 10:44 AM
#9
kurotsuki said: I guess that means Peter can't die either ? in witch case , why was he shown dead anyway ? he wasn't even beheaded . ..and how does a time traveler gets stabbed by his own weapon ? and what kind of fear Claire would have that would make that guy behead her ? ....Unless he makes fear become reality , in which case maybe Claire's fear is to die ? and if he makes fear reality , then....i guess he killed her for real ? and to reply to fai earlier : yeah powers evolving , I guess I didn't think of that. Perhaps Claire triggers he defense system to grown strongers after so many death attempts. Peter is entirely different case then. Sylar gets the powers at the level they are, peter got Claire's power quite early in the series, IT CAN be already evolved up to the level where he is immortal too, since At the trailer for EP03 we hear how Claire says "since you can't die, I will make sure that every of your deaths will be painful" or something like that As for future/dream scene. It might not be a direct "how it will go on" stuff,since, like in Peter's dream, there were a lot of inconsistencies (claire wearing her school uniform, etc). As for Hiro getting stabbed - German has magnetism powers, that explains it all. And for Claire - for one, we do not even know if that scene will even happen now, with Angela "getting to" Sylar. And I doubt she is dead. Put her head back into place and she will heal, I bet...or maybe grow a new head in some time?... As for Evolution - well it was shown with adam. He practically got mutilated at every battle after finding out his power. So yeah, I guess using it does fasten the evolution. soks2cool said: I believe you are right, but I'll try to clear up why I think you are. Mohinder told us that by using that serum everyone will be able to have powers. Maya said she didnt want people to have the same powers as she did since its her blood, and Mohinder told us that, since everyone has a different genetic makeup, or blood makeup, or something like that, then everyone will manifest different powers. Therefore, since all of Nikki's personalities inhabit the same body, they would all have the same power. What if it is Nikki and her power evolved like in Parkman or Claire? Well, in Parkman's case he went from reading minds to controlling minds, and Claire went from healing to apparently feeling no pain. The natural progression of evolution directly correllates with its previous state. So, basically their new powers have something to do with their old powers. I don't see a natural progression from having super strength (Nikki) to having the ability to freeze (Tracy). So, what does this all mean? Either Nikki's real power is the ability to change her genetic makeup, thus creating herself different powers, which I don't think is the case, or Tracy is a completely different person. Who is Tracy? Simple. TRACY IS NIKKI'S TWIN SISTER!!! Twins even though looking the same have different genetic makeups. Thats why she was surprised at seeing those pictures of Nikki with Nathan in that hotel room, and thats why she denied it was her. I don't even think she knows she has (or possibly had) a twin sister. Man, that was a long post, but thats my take on it. MPD does not affect he power type or genetic structure. And even if it did one power can't become into other entirely different power AS for Sister. I doubt its exactly sister. Linderman made sure to pair up Niki with Dl, right? What if he also cloned her? It was already implied that Company was toying with DNA for quite some time, so Its quite a possibility too. Not to mention the character development of whole "i am just a clone?" |
Sep 24, 2008 7:39 PM
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Sep 29, 2008 7:22 PM
#11
Fai said: MPD does not affect he power type or genetic structure. And even if it did one power can't become into other entirely different power AS for Sister. I doubt its exactly sister. Linderman made sure to pair up Niki with Dl, right? What if he also cloned her? It was already implied that Company was toying with DNA for quite some time, so Its quite a possibility too. Not to mention the character development of whole "i am just a clone?" Man I didn't even think about that. Good call on the clone. If the Company cloned Nikki, then wouldn't that mean they could have cloned other people? What about Adam? He hasn't even been mentioned this season. I watched last season, but I forgot what happened to him. |
Sep 29, 2008 8:50 PM
#12
soks2cool said: What about Adam? He hasn't even been mentioned this season. I watched last season, but I forgot what happened to him. Buried alive by Hiro. Immortality is quite the bitch for those with that power in this show. |
Sep 29, 2008 10:20 PM
#13
| Argh! Hiro's hero complex is kinda annoying me. I want to see Future Hiro return, slap Present Hiro across the face, and say, "What the hell did you do to my present!?" But...I suppose that Hiro became nonexistent with all the change that's gone about. So did that fear-eating guy escape? It'd be interesting if he could feed off his own fear. That'd take some crazy psychological conditioning to rid himself of confidence while feeding on his own fear and fighting at the same time. Doubt it's gonna happen though. He's as good as caught or dead whenever we see him. Well, it seems that the chance of Nikki/Ava/Tracy/etc are clones has risen. Heck, she may not even have been born through normal means. Haha, can you imagine all of them coming together and forming a team of crime fighters :P Just bring Nikki back to life maybe...? |
Oct 1, 2008 3:54 AM
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Asrialys said: Well, it seems that the chance of Nikki/Ava/Tracy/etc are clones has risen. Heck, she may not even have been born through normal means. Haha, can you imagine all of them coming together and forming a team of crime fighters :P Just bring Nikki back to life maybe...? Not to mention the possibility that Tracy is not the only clone left....Zimmerman DID confuse her with someone named Barbara. |
Oct 1, 2008 7:35 AM
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Fai said: Asrialys said: Well, it seems that the chance of Nikki/Ava/Tracy/etc are clones has risen. Heck, she may not even have been born through normal means. Haha, can you imagine all of them coming together and forming a team of crime fighters :P Just bring Nikki back to life maybe...? Not to mention the possibility that Tracy is not the only clone left....Zimmerman DID confuse her with someone named Barbara. Barbara? I thought he said Ava? I should check it out again. |
Oct 1, 2008 5:04 PM
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Asrialys said: Barbara? I thought he said Ava? I should check it out again. It was Barbara. It went somewhat like this: "Oh, Barbara?" "no...its...Tracy" |
Oct 1, 2008 5:07 PM
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Oct 1, 2008 6:54 PM
#18
Iriya said: I thought he said Ava too. Wow. I should probably watch the episode again. I've already forgotten how exactly the fear-eating guy works D: There wasn't much to it. It seemed automatic. He only demonstrated it to the German. It made it seem that his movements were faster, and then had his arm go right through his torso and into the wall behind the German. |
Oct 1, 2008 7:15 PM
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Oct 1, 2008 9:34 PM
#20
| I wonder if Sylar found the German's corpse , and took his powers. oh but wait , he didn't knew what the German's power was anyway, nor did her knew about the german at all anyway . shame :( |
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Oct 1, 2008 9:39 PM
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kurotsuki said: I wonder if Sylar found the German's corpse , and took his powers. oh but wait , he didn't knew what the German's power was anyway, nor did her knew about the german at all anyway . shame :( If he read all the files after taking Claire's power, then he might have been aware. He's supposed to have that super memorizing power he took from Hiro's first love. lol I wonder if it has to be "fresh." |
Oct 1, 2008 9:44 PM
#22
| true , i forgot about the files. lol yeah i was wondering if it had to be fresh too haha. |
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Oct 1, 2008 9:48 PM
#23
| I liked this episode quite a bit, but I'm kind of upset to see that the clone theory is the one that's panning out with Tracy/Nikki. A friend of mine had a theory that Nikki had no powers and that she was the "base" for all of them, that Tracy, Jessica and Jenna (the brief one in season 2) all had their own powers and she could use them all by switching. Bleh, maybe it'll be like the comic 100 Girls though, that'd be cool. Anyway, I'm enjoying this season and I really like that Sylar is getting more prominent. Though, seriously what the hell, is EVERYONE related in this show? |
Oct 2, 2008 1:11 AM
#24
kurotsuki said: I wonder if Sylar found the German's corpse , and took his powers. oh but wait , he didn't knew what the German's power was anyway, nor did her knew about the german at all anyway . shame :( Dead brain = no powers to get from sylar. Iriya said: Oh, that's right, that was him. Now I remember seeing that and thinking, "Wait a minute. What exactly is his power?" Well, I can't wait to see more elaboration on his power then - it'll probably be really interesting. He senses the fear at certain radius around him and channels that fear into his own strength, the more people who fear - the stronger he is. IF anything, his strength is unlimited as with the biggest amount of fear, he would be able to punch through anything and bend anything. Zyro said: I liked this episode quite a bit, but I'm kind of upset to see that the clone theory is the one that's panning out with Tracy/Nikki. A friend of mine had a theory that Nikki had no powers and that she was the "base" for all of them, that Tracy, Jessica and Jenna (the brief one in season 2) all had their own powers and she could use them all by switching. Bleh, maybe it'll be like the comic 100 Girls though, that'd be cool. Anyway, I'm enjoying this season and I really like that Sylar is getting more prominent. Though, seriously what the hell, is EVERYONE related in this show? I would not be surprised if Adam Monroe(Takezo Kensei) was the first superhuman ever and that he is everyone's who have the powers ancestor. It would explain on why Sylar called Claire as "different from them" - her power is the oldest one, and she would be the one bearing the strongest version of it. Which brings us to the point yet again - would she really die, if shot to head NOW? As for Niki - I am more on going that she was a "failed" experiment. Something during cloning went wrong with her, which made her have damaged genetic structure, making her more able on developing Multiple Personality Disorder. Jessica and Gina were just the results of a serious illness. I am thinking that all of them were "created" basing them on one of the founders. Linderman's experiment, so to say. All of them (however of them there are, i am inclined to believe there were at least 5 or 6 of them) are placed into different environments, as a research on power development. Two clones - Niki and Jessica are placed in one family. They have a strong bond, having the same genetic makeup, so as one of them dies, the other develop's Jessica's personality in her mind as result. Other clone - Tracy,The Ice Queen, is placed into yet another family. She has to go through other problems, getting a cold personality, which results in freezing powers. Barbara - the other known clone is placed somewhere else and gets yet another power. And yes its Barbara. Its just that Zimmerman has a certain accent. He says it as "Ba(silent r)-Ba(sillent r)-a", r is silent in how he talks, but the word is Barbara. "...Barbara?" "No. My name is Tracy...Straus. Are you Dr. Zimmerman?" "Oh, The one from Beverly Hills? Come In" "How do you now, Im from Beverly Hills?" "..." "Do you know me?" "know you ? I CREATED You." |
Oct 2, 2008 2:07 AM
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Fai said: Dead brain = no powers to get from sylar. I don't think that's true. I mean, when he cut Claire's head open he was looking at her brain for a good 1-2 minutes. Granted she didn't die, but an ordinary person would if the top of their head was cut off. So I think it's highly possible he has Magneto, sorry 'The Germans,' power but I don't think he would really think too much about the dead guy, considering he had already set his hungry eyes on Banshee, sorry 'Jesse' |
Oct 2, 2008 4:26 AM
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Zyro said: Fai said: Dead brain = no powers to get from sylar. I don't think that's true. I mean, when he cut Claire's head open he was looking at her brain for a good 1-2 minutes. Granted she didn't die, but an ordinary person would if the top of their head was cut off. So I think it's highly possible he has Magneto, sorry 'The Germans,' power but I don't think he would really think too much about the dead guy, considering he had already set his hungry eyes on Banshee, sorry 'Jesse' Can you figure out what is written in audio CD if that cd is broken into millions of pieces? Can you figure what color does a light bulb shed if its turned off? After body's death, brain remains alive for quite some time, sometimes. However the point is - how can someone figure how thing works, if that thing has stoped working altogether. After that much time has passed since German's death, brain would have stoped functioning completely and the processes of decay would have already set in in entire body, ruining the status of all the organs. If he went there earlier, he would have had a possibility, but not when he appeared as he did. |
Oct 2, 2008 4:29 AM
#27
| It's sad to see such an ability go. With luck , maybe F!peter has it or something =/ |
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Oct 6, 2008 7:12 PM
#28
| Adam Monroe FTW. I think that the guy the hint at for the surprise return will be Sylar, Nathan, and Peter's father. That would be absolutely insane. I don't know though, considering he was never really playing a big role in the show besides being talked about. I'd like to see it though. |
Oct 6, 2008 10:11 PM
#29
| ZOMG!! Who are the real villains? kurotsuki said: It's sad to see such an ability go. With luck , maybe F!peter has it or something =/ The yelling thing, or the German's? It is odd that in tonight's episode, Present Peter could use the fire ability. What? Did he get it in the few seconds after leaving Jesse's body? While inside it? |
Oct 6, 2008 10:19 PM
#30
Asrialys said: ZOMG!! Who are the real villains? kurotsuki said: It's sad to see such an ability go. With luck , maybe F!peter has it or something =/ The yelling thing, or the German's? It is odd that in tonight's episode, Present Peter could use the fire ability. What? Did he get it in the few seconds after leaving Jesse's body? While inside it? peter, as of right now ") |
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Oct 7, 2008 6:24 PM
#31
Asrialys said: ZOMG!! Who are the real villains? kurotsuki said: It's sad to see such an ability go. With luck , maybe F!peter has it or something =/ The yelling thing, or the German's? It is odd that in tonight's episode, Present Peter could use the fire ability. What? Did he get it in the few seconds after leaving Jesse's body? While inside it? The German's. As for the fire ability , I don't remember where he got it , but didn't a Peter from another timeline showed the same ability ? though the question come back again as to where he got it from . What I'm more bothered about is , what happened to Peter's healing ability in the future. The future is so messed up it's funny , on one side , Angela Petrellie sees Claire being killed by the Fear guy , while in the future , they work together. |
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Oct 7, 2008 9:03 PM
#32
kurotsuki said: Asrialys said: ZOMG!! Who are the real villains? kurotsuki said: It's sad to see such an ability go. With luck , maybe F!peter has it or something =/ The yelling thing, or the German's? It is odd that in tonight's episode, Present Peter could use the fire ability. What? Did he get it in the few seconds after leaving Jesse's body? While inside it? The German's. As for the fire ability , I don't remember where he got it , but didn't a Peter from another timeline showed the same ability ? though the question come back again as to where he got it from . In USA Today newspaper, I think the fire guy is related or has been previously involved with one of the main cast. I've assumed that it's the Petrellis. But who knows. What I'm more bothered about is , what happened to Peter's healing ability in the future. He still has it. The Haitian was around, however. By the way, I laughed when Present Peter was running away from Claire and just smacked the Haitian was some garbage can lid. The future is so messed up it's funny , on one side , Angela Petrellie sees Claire being killed by the Fear guy , while in the future , they work together. The future probably kept changing every time Future Peter and Hiro did something stupid :P |
Oct 7, 2008 9:07 PM
#33
| right , I forgot about the haitian blocking his power , but then again , why didn't the scar healed ? |
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Oct 8, 2008 12:43 AM
#34
kurotsuki said: right , I forgot about the haitian blocking his power , but then again , why didn't the scar healed ? Didn't he also have a scar in the first season? Caused by Hiro or someone? Don't remember. |
Oct 8, 2008 8:28 AM
#35
| I don't remember if it was caused by Hiro , but yeah , his scar has always been something that bugged me , Since he had Claire's power in the first place , that scar should have healed , yet it never did. |
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Oct 9, 2008 8:27 AM
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kurotsuki said: I don't remember if it was caused by Hiro , but yeah , his scar has always been something that bugged me , Since he had Claire's power in the first place , that scar should have healed , yet it never did. Kept is as a reminder? As punishment? Or Hiro can do some sort of amazing time magic on his blade that prevents any wound from healing :P lol |
Oct 9, 2008 8:50 AM
#37
| I'd say that Peter kept the scar as a reminder, that's the only thing that really makes sense. I like his scar, makes him look tougher, course in season 1 the episode "Five Years Gone" he looked way more buff then the current future Peter does. My main question is this. Who did Sylar get it on with? |
Oct 9, 2008 9:33 AM
#38
Zyro said: My main question is this. Who did Sylar get it on with? Turned himself female and...ew Yeah, I want to know too. No mention of a mommy. Adopted? Unimportant (not to the fans!!!) character? And how did he get Claire's home? So many unanswered questions about the future and we probably won't get any. I wonder if some answers will appear in the comics. |
Oct 10, 2008 1:09 AM
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Oct 13, 2008 10:17 PM
#40
| What was Hiro thinking... Heh, ever since this season started, Nathan always seemed to be the odd one out of the siblings. His power seemed so different from his brothers that I almost thought he was adopted. But it seems that his power was given to him through the formula. Can't wait to see Barbara. Just how terrifying is Mr. Petrelli? For a second there, I thought he had bit into Tracie's neck? Seems he's the type to get his hands dirty. By the way, do you think Sylar heard everything they were saying at the carousel? He does have the ability of super hearing. Even without hearing, the body language and strangeness of the situation alone made it obvious what Noah was planning. I feel sorry for that vortex guy though... |
Oct 14, 2008 6:50 PM
#41
| About Hiro: WTF! I dunno, it has to be something else than what it really is, I don't see Hiro as the type to really sacrifice his friend. I mean, it really is like Batman sacrificing Robin. Nathan: Hah! I always knew there was something off about his power, it just didn't click. Why would Peter get such a wicked power and Nathan such an incredibly lame one. Now it's explained, because Nathan wasn't born with his power. (Though I think this might prove that Nathan was their father's favorite.) Mr. Petrelli: I totally called it when he was talking with Angela, I didn't think they'd bring him in as a villain but I suppose if the shoe fits. Also, I remember them saying in season 1 that he had killed himself and Nathan had found him (or something like that) does that mean that Nathan knows his father is alive, or did the Haitian take his memory? Questions questions questions. Sylar: No I don't think he heard. Remember, Sylar lost his powers at the beginning of season 3 and the only one he has is Telekinesis, his original one, Jesse's power and that other girls power (Beginning of episode 3 I believe) |
Oct 14, 2008 8:53 PM
#42
Zyro said: Mr. Petrelli: I totally called it when he was talking with Angela, I didn't think they'd bring him in as a villain but I suppose if the shoe fits. Also, I remember them saying in season 1 that he had killed himself and Nathan had found him (or something like that) does that mean that Nathan knows his father is alive, or did the Haitian take his memory? Questions questions questions. Probably didn't know. He could have been still "dead" when he last saw his father. For all we know, Linderman brought him back afterwards. Sylar: No I don't think he heard. Remember, Sylar lost his powers at the beginning of season 3 and the only one he has is Telekinesis, his original one, Jesse's power and that other girls power (Beginning of episode 3 I believe) Telekinesis was his first stolen power. Remember when that guy pulled a coffee mug towards him at the watch shop? Sylar's power is the ability to understand and absorb abilities, albeit through violent means. And remember the alternate future where he blew up just last week? |
Oct 14, 2008 10:08 PM
#43
Asrialys said: Probably didn't know. He could have been still "dead" when he last saw his father. For all we know, Linderman brought him back afterwards. That's true, I'm looking forward to seeing what his power is. Because it's gotta be something wicked, you can't command such respect without a power that can cause such fear. Asrialys said: Telekinesis was his first stolen power. Remember when that guy pulled a coffee mug towards him at the watch shop? Sylar's power is the ability to understand and absorb abilities, albeit through violent means. And remember the alternate future where he blew up just last week? Yes I know, my only theory on him still having telekinesis is that it was his FIRST acquired power. It's possible though that he only lost some of his abilities, and he still might have hearing (we just may not have been hearing him hearing it.... Did that make sense?). I dunno, I hope that's explained sooner or later |
Oct 15, 2008 8:57 AM
#44
Zyro said: About Hiro: WTF! I dunno, it has to be something else than what it really is, I don't see Hiro as the type to really sacrifice his friend. I mean, it really is like Batman sacrificing Robin. You never know with the time powers of Hiro. The fact that Daphne did not want Ando to be killed too could mean that Hiro stoped time, convinced Daphne to play along and acted out the whole stabbing...OR He did that without stopping time and convincing Daphne - by hitting the nonvital spot. Of course Ando will misunderstand that. Zyro said: Nathan: Hah! I always knew there was something off about his power, it just didn't click. Why would Peter get such a wicked power and Nathan such an incredibly lame one. Now it's explained, because Nathan wasn't born with his power. (Though I think this might prove that Nathan was their father's favorite.) Not to mention that his father also seems to have a plan for Nathan Zyro said: Mr. Petrelli: I totally called it when he was talking with Angela, I didn't think they'd bring him in as a villain but I suppose if the shoe fits. Also, I remember them saying in season 1 that he had killed himself and Nathan had found him (or something like that) does that mean that Nathan knows his father is alive, or did the Haitian take his memory? Questions questions questions. Considering the fact that Arthur seems to be The Evil Prof.Xavier, capable of WTFPWNING his wife through distance, I would say he just made his son think it happened. Zyro said: Sylar: No I don't think he heard. Remember, Sylar lost his powers at the beginning of season 3 and the only one he has is Telekinesis, his original one, Jesse's power and that other girls power (Beginning of episode 3 I believe) He was obviously using his hearing ability. There's no way person could figure out THAT much just by watching a scene from distance. SYlar heard what was said and just took a stance, ready to defend himself, since attacking outright would only "proove" everyone that Sylar is a evil, which would ruing all his wishes of wanting to change. Overall as of others: Claire : well, writers seem to intend on making her snap completely. Almost each episode was a psychic trauma to her so far and if the next episode is any proof, by the end of "villains" we will have an evil Claire. P.S. I doubt she really forgiven Noah. IMHO she pulled the similar trick on when she "agreed that Meredith was right and sher should stay home" AS for why she would snap: First two episdoes - gets her head opened. Fourth episode - psycho exercise with her mommy. Fifth episode - Father "betrays" her. Sixth Episode - Meredith kidnapped by the Puppeteer and preview shows him playing mind-rape games with Claire. Seventh Episode: Elle takes a visit to Bennet house. |
Oct 18, 2008 5:09 PM
#45
Oct 20, 2008 10:01 PM
#46
| My thoughts on the newest episode of Heroes: Wow, so I really wonder what turned Arthur Petrelli into the bad guy. I mean, he obviouslly wasn't the bad guy to start, he was a father of two of our, sometimes misguided, heroes of the show. I thought his power might be kind of Professor X and whatnot, but now I'm not so sure. He oviously has some mental power cause he was communicating with Adam telepathically. My theory on him is that he absorbs a persons entire self, powers and all. It would explain how he healed up after he pulled the tube from his throat. And man is Sylar ever turning out to be the good guy of this series. I guess it balances out with Claire turning into the villain along with Peter and Mohinder going nutso. Claire really seems to be the only one descending into evil without an adequate excuse like Peter or Mohinder. But even with their excuses the two of them seem to be enjoying the dark side a little too much, and that just makes me so happy =D In most of the series I follow I usually always tend to lean towards those that can be seen as "evil" or "dark." It's the same with Buffy, Angel, Star Wars and even Batman. Anyway, that's getting off topic. I think we've got another piece of the "Why does Claire go evil" puzzle. She just had to play the crazy ass game of russian roulette and then her mother shot her. Granted she TOLD her mother to shoot her but still, that's gotta be hard, even if you heal through it. So Arthur Petreli took Peter's powers, I get that. But that makes me wonder, if Peter still has his original power (Absorbing the powers of those around him). Wouldn't he get all the powers that his father has? Or did his evil papa take every single one of his powers, including his original one? Questions questions, can't wait for those answers |
Oct 20, 2008 10:24 PM
#47
| Who were the faces on the wall? I saw Arthur, Knox, Flint (or was that Matt's dad?), and some guy I don't recognize. It seems they really are father and sons. It's as if Arthur's ability was more or less split between Gabriel and Peter. Although, I can't say for sure, Arthur can use his abilities in two ways: suck the life out (e.g. Adam) or absorb their power (e.g. Peter). Both ways through physical contact. I'd say Peter's is more perfected, or at least non-violent. But does this mean that Arthur no longer needs contact? Zyro said: Wow, so I really wonder what turned Arthur Petrelli into the bad guy. I mean, he obviouslly wasn't the bad guy to start, he was a father of two of our, sometimes misguided, heroes of the show. Remember when Hiro's father said that they were all originally doing this for the good of humanity. But then they all lost their way or felt that there needed a more dramatic change for quicker progress. Maybe Arthur's goal is more similar to Magneto's, a world where those with true power rule. Maybe that was the future Future Peter came from. Except the whole destruction of the planet thing doesn't seem like part of a plan... I thought his power might be kind of Professor X and whatnot, but now I'm not so sure. He oviously has some mental power cause he was communicating with Adam telepathically. My theory on him is that he absorbs a persons entire self, powers and all. It would explain how he healed up after he pulled the tube from his throat. Who knows about what happened prior to killing Adam. He probably had other abilities to begin with. So Arthur Petreli took Peter's powers, I get that. But that makes me wonder, if Peter still has his original power (Absorbing the powers of those around him). Wouldn't he get all the powers that his father has? Or did his evil papa take every single one of his powers, including his original one? Questions questions, can't wait for those answers Considering Arthur used the words "don't" and "anymore" I think Peter is practically normal now. But what exactly does Arthur take? Since it doesn't really make sense, considering their powers are part of their DNA and bodies, but whatever... And read my thoughts above for more what I think about Arthur. |
Oct 23, 2008 6:41 AM
#48
| There's some preview clips of 3x07 already surfing on the internet. Mohinder takes Maya to Arthur so he would remove her powers |
Oct 23, 2008 7:01 PM
#49
yamazaki_san said: There's some preview clips of 3x07 already surfing on the internet. Mohinder takes Maya to Arthur so he would remove her powers lol Then grab on and get his power taken :P That'd be funny if that happened. |
Nov 11, 2008 4:23 AM
#50
| I like how everyone is either dying , either in big sh*t . Now the question is how they are going to save the day ? If Hiro dies now , it's over , Arthur wins. |
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